Am I the only one to find weird that the guild asking for a buff to BB damages is also the guild with twice the number of high level knights than other guilds? The only thing that you need to worry about is the Gutter Lines that make BB's double damage / spread damage do not work when you position yourself to mob under the 'red mark' of gutter lines. On this server, though the damage nerf is very noticeable. Knights require a lot of investment in build as without shit like raydric you aren't gonna farm well on them. and neither do strawberry raffles. Mobbing alone feels like shit because I have no gear, that's why I party up instead. You'd just gut the class. Knights can just get Aspersio/Endows and do elemental BB which right now deals 100% less damage than Holy Cross BUT it's AoE. He also said Chick Hat is OP so don't expect much understanding. It's just that most classes don't even bother doing that right now. According to your logic Wizards can't do anything in Renewal compared to Classic because their damage got nerfed. and they should mob better than any other class by a mile since thats what they do. I propose that we just revert the bowling bash nerf and see how Knights do. Look at the chart I posted earlier, they're still the best at what you're trying to do. Just look for a grf editing tutorial, but make sure you back up your main grf file in case you mess something up. You either auto follow priest (then you cant mob a lot of monsters) or you park our priest (cant go very far from your priest before aspersio runs out). It’s a bug that has been fixed on kRO – Renewal with the redesign/re-balancing of the 2nd class skills last year. You and everyone else against Bowling Bash seem to think we are playing on restart. And I think I speak for all knight players in that I would rather have to use a program to see gutter lines and deal full dmg with my bowling bash then have no gutter lines and get a straight damage nerf. This setting will display a circle around your character to show the max casting range of your skills. Agi is pretty bad in the sense that its inferior to literally any one else who excels at building agi. which we already know dude. If you are going to nerf its damage, then reduce the sp consumption by a corresponding amount to compensate. Gutter lines were a bug in the code and a problem for the gameplay, it has been fixed and it's a QoL improvement. They have traded in their Pecos for new dragon mounts and are ready to do some serious damage with an arsenal of new powerful attacks while also having the highest HP pool compared to other classes. ติดตั้ง Mod สำหรับดู Gutter Grid โดยอุปกรณ์มีดังนี้นะจ๊ะ >> GRF Editor , Mod Geffen Dun3 , วิธีการติดตั้ง Mod << สามารถกดดาวโหลดทั้ง 3ไฟล์ได้ที่นี่เลย http://irowiki.org/wiki/Bowling_Bash, just kinda memorize coordinates between the 40 tiles squares (20,60,100,140,180, etc) and land BB's around there, like, keep an eye in the coordinates below the minimap, From the BB link above, "In PvP environments, Knights may be requested to tank and spread status effects instead of inflict damage." References ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 TitanRO forums: Server Info Both of those are single target skills too, unlike Bowling Bash. or at least a high end weapon and a very difficult to obtain card. (not a big deal). Only tools that help them mob. Share Followers 0. I get oom SP when playing all classes:P If one dont use ctrl+click to lvl. No horizontal movement would save me from a Gutter "Monster", so I'd move either diagonally, or vertically. which shows that deep down, your only hope to be somewhat competent with your chosen class is to nerf other ones. We didn't remove Endure/Peco riding/Improve HP Recovery or anything. So as such, they shouldn't be nerfed. Hunters have ankle snare to not get hit. endure is the best utility they have and it doesn't prevent any dmg, just prevents hit lock. And as he Said you use hide and lose aggro and shit. Bowling Bash is balanced by a knight's limited sp pool and regeneration and the scarcity of sp items. BB does NOT out dps that vs those mobs. because they felt weaker. So of course they should have the best AOE mobbing ability. LOL, cause im planning to do some mobbing then bowling bash to be unique. Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. I just don't understand the comparison to classes like sin/agi sader who have high flee. I am also on the opinion that this "fix" is unnecessary, and there is no valid reasoning behind it. if you're talking about this  sorry but he's only talking about the coordinates below the minimap, something that we already have. The best way i now is just to walk diagonally, 3 cells? It brings together a sense of community, nostalgia and competitiveness that goes unmatched by most other American pastimes. A lot of people hate Bowling Bash because of the gutter lines. if your flee isn't very high it doesn't do much for you besides dodge a weaker mobs attacks and the occasional attack from a solo mob thats stronger. Aren't these tools usually client-side only? And I don't know why you think getting some agi will help you getting hit less. (right now there are none besides zweihander which is an mvp drop), earth deleter, firelock shoes, etc. 1. Right, I should not have attacked your poorly built knight. You can also toggle this setting by using the /bbe command in-game. I have used it a bit and I miss a lot too. Any good knight is gonna have some agi to increase BB dps. Somewhere along the line they changed up Bowling Bash into this ridiculously powerful skill. Leaving the skill as it should be is, in my opinion, the smarter choice. Disabled changing of Guildmaster when WOE is active. There is an invisible grid on every map that reverts the skill to its older self when performed inside it. If it only hits once it's either not default rAthena (which it actually isn't) or you are standing on the gutter line on which Bowling Bash doesn't hit twice. So, at least you are honest about nerfing, and not hiding it behind "quality of life improvement". 715. I have not tryed knight on titan, but on renewal it was way crazy:P Sure u had alot of easy sp items. Knights are going to take damage and sacrfice health. Put BB on any other class and yes it would be the most broken shit, but knights have been balanced around the ability for ages and have been fine for ages. You act like reducing the total BB damage by 20% removes Knights ability to mob and kill monsters. It's like if you nerfed double attack for rogue or EDP for sin. Cons: Ignition break has a very high pre-req to get, you won’t get max Ignition Break until a minimum of job 23. The fact that Holy Cross has an attached element is not always an advantage, endows or elemental weapons do nothing for that skill. But hey, I could be complaining about a specific snake oriented card, which should proc 5% only, or with a certain passive skill already learned, shouldn't even take effect, but I am not here to take away the joy of a class, leaving a sour taste in every assassins mouth. Rune Knights have a slower startup leveling-wise, but through persistence and dedication, they can become one of the most versatile and powerful classes in the game. I personally think bowling bash hitting twice at such a high chance is too powerful.. Did you find this helpful? especially without an earth deleter and let me know how it feels. If you actually deal proper damage on that location when you are mobbing, use that SAME spot to mob. 715. that's not really how flee works. The gutterline removal was introduced because we felt that no skill should require a third party program to play. Bowling Bash Gutter Lines. using BB OFF gutter lines is bug abusing. I don't know what you're trying to get at dude. Logged Player of Phoenix Fury, Pestilence & Ekirei. Instead, we just get a nerf. they damn well should be. A blatant nerf will only build drama, a compromise could solve the problem. They were unf… don't compare them to a rogue, sin because those classes aren't built for it and have many other strengths. I would rather use hook instead of a "quality of life" "improvement" on my skills that basically reduces my damage by 20%. Our bowling parties for kids are fun and easy to plan! This is not the case. Ragnarok Bowling Bash Gutterlines. yes you can build a knight for agi, but why the hell would anyone play an agi knight when they can play an agi sin, rogue, sader, or hunter who does more with the stat a million times better. there is. I have a 9x BB/Pierce Knight. then why shouldn't they be able to mob like a beast. This could be a managable compromise. No safety wall, hide, they won't have high flee as they need VIT to survive and they have huge HP pools. Gutter lines were a fix to a problem that hasn't existed in RO for years and were an unnecessary hindrance to "new" Bowling Bash, so removing them is a quality of life improvement, rather than a buff to the skill. Momiji. Posted on December 30, 2019 | By Wizzzzard | No comments. What did I just read lmfao I was disappointed in this nerf before I joined any guild, so there goes that. Bowling Bash Behavior: Follows the official Gutter Line system. something you DONT do on any other class. BB might seem bad now because it's early on in the server, but once you get geared up and get that Earth Deleter Card and other sp solutions I'm sure it will feel great again. bowling bash is not intended to hit 2 times, that is why it has such high damage Hard to call it a "bug abuse" when nothing in game officially says Bowling Bash is only supposed to work on certain cells, nor is there any official in-game way to tell which cells are gutter lines, outside of having /where hot keyed until you eventually memorize gutter lines for that map. thats the point. Brandish Spear is ok, but it was never comparable to BB. Mobbing with an assassin with agi build no int and grimtooth uses alot of sp too, and does way less dmg. I REALLY hope there's something that can be used legally and officially. they basically don't do anything else but mob. Skill effect and description of the skill Bowling Bash in the mmorpg Ragnarok Online. So, back on topic: 20% is still 20%. bowling bash is not intended to hit 2 times, that is why it has such high damage, I suppose you dont even know how currently works BB... facepalm. <--- ??? I've heard the argument for nerfing bowling bash was "but we removed gutter lines". Would they be actually bannable realistically speaking? Like you said yourself, hp pool, potion efficiency, endure, and bowling bash/brandish spear. Endure, increase hp recovery, etc. You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Stuff like this usually comes down to some ulterior motive, and could tarnish reputations. the entire kit is balanced around it being good. Grey world is not supported and even a ban offense. Playing around gutter lines is part of the knights life. there is nothing wrong with that. sure its "viable" in the sense that its not completely terrible. One of the most annoying things of playing a Bowling Bash Knight are these pesky areas where the skill is bugged and doesn’t work properly. what im getting at it, is that as the title says its unnecessary. We don't want a knight-only WoE where other classes are bullied by peco-fast F1-spammers that deal sustained highest physical melee AoE DPS with no drawbacks. Bowling Bash Gutter Line are back after rA Synced By Amonkhet, December 15, 2020. I don't agree that's their entire identity, but you can mob well like you said. Tree of Savior: Zereges (Falconeer-Mergen-Ranger) Ragnarok break now. Thats just...pitiful. Bowling Bash does (500%*2) damage for 22 SP if you aren't in gutter lines while Brandish Spear does 300% damage for 12 SP. Those other classes that have AOE have other abilities/skills that make them what they are. An SP consuming skill that requires gear and still can't quite get in enough damage? The whole idea of "well this is WAY better than other classes AOE so it needs to be nerfed" is silly because it should be way better than other classes. literally no one here is saying the ability isn't good. Knights are built to mob. thats the entire identity. Never miss BB again! But you take a shit ton more damage. This is not recommended for shared computers. I vividly remember playing euRO 14 years ago and nearly every single Knight I saw was a spear build that used Brandish. Also so think the only way to legitimately be better at using BB is to practice and understand the skill nature and how to position yourself properly. Right now Knights do use more sp/%dmg per BB, but that's intended. you are just going to take a shit ton of damage. Holy Cross for one is situationally way more dps than bowling bash on the right target (weak to holy obv) and does stupid damage single target. And it shouldn't be. Server: PRO [VALKYRIE] Stat: str 96. agi 50. vit 70 +++++ [ lord knight exists because of two reasons, to be a tanker and damage dealer ] int 1. dex 50. luk 1. stat explanation – we all know there’s numerous build for an LK. Nah, Bowling Bash works in a way that it hits twice (hard-coded) because it works with collision code. on Pinterest. Is it an "ulterior motive? Bowling Bash also requires some getting used to. SimpleROHook is a third party program created to extend the functionality of the game's client. I don't have the BiS equipments at the moment, but I do have decent enough gears, and still I feel the difference. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. In fact, if you knew nothing about gutter lines at all, you are more likely to BB a mob outside of gutter line than in it with the non gutter line areas being larger and all. The grid is present on every cell that is divisible by 40 on the X and Y coordinates (type in /where) and the five adjecent cells to those. Did you know that unnerfed BB deals more damage than skills like Sonic Blow, Holy Cross and Mammonite? I don't go pure vit. Not that anyone should care, because no one can detect greyworld anyway if you don't stream, You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Installation: 1) Make a Backup of Ragexe.exe in your RO folder. – Bowling Bash assist lines. Aww, poorly buit? Also contain Type, Target, Range, sp/hp cost, skill requirement and everything you need to know about Bowling Bash. With the gutterline removal we had a good excuse to look at the skill again. That you go pure vit is your choice, a hybrid build is way better in the current meta and will make sure you flee some hits too. My EndlessTower Video WoW (Drak'Thul): Zere, Shadow Priest, (offline too) … Must be ran as admin. Post Aug 27, 2011 #1 2011-08-27T07:01. look at the coordinates under the mini-map. First time trying BB x_x. No. GRF Editor can generate flat maps with optional gutter lines from any map. I have used it a bit and I miss a lot too. Yeah so let's buff one guild over others three weeks before WoE starts! I've talked to multiple people using BB who told me they didn't even know the skill was nerfed until someone told them, I think you're exaggerating. A solution: if the damage is decreased, the SP consumption should be decreased also. Knights are good at mobbing because of Endure, their high hp pool and potion efficiency. Bowling Bash / Gutter Lines images. 2) And if I get "Dremuci Forest (mosk_dun03) 212, 120" as example. If you dont wanna go to an inn farm sp items. GET YOUR OWN TITLE NOW LOL. its a joke to compare their AOE abilities to a knight when they have many other tools at their disposal that help them. There will be a 3% TAX on all VENDING Transactions. // Area of Bowling Bash chain reaction (pre-renewal only) // 0: Use official gutter line system // 1: Gutter line system without demi gutter bug // 2-20: Area around caster (2 = 5x5, 3 = 7x7, 4 = 9x9, ..., 20 = 41x41) // Note: If you knock the target out of the area it will only be hit once and won't do splash damage: bowling_bash_area: 0 :) But fun also:P. assassin's aren't supposed to be as good at mobbing as knights as they do other things well. 2) Copy Ragexe from „Ragexe for RCX“ (inside the downloaded .rar folder) to your RO folder and overwrite the current Ragexe. That's what I have anyway. /memo is disabled on MVP Maps. Only right movement is safe from our foe, the Gutter Line, because 157 is still a Gutter. WOE boxes don't exist. no compensation really because, again, we never were on gutter lines anyway. tl;dr Apparently, BB effect has been changed in official and there exists these "gutter lines" where you only hit once with BB. Big Card sprite used. They didn't need any nerfs because quite frankly you can't spam the ability. Bowling Bash is balanced by a knight's limited sp pool and regeneration and the scarcity of sp items. Don't they still deal with self mobbed monsters more efficiently than any other class? Hard to call it a "bug abuse" when nothing in game officially says Bowling Bash is only supposed to work on certain cells, nor is there any official in-game way to tell which cells are gutter lines, outside of having /where hot keyed until you eventually memorize gutter lines for that map. Gravity has shat on its playerbase feedback for 15 years, how do you this is an argument? they sacrifice that for more dps/aoe mobbing. You can't look at abilities in a vacuum imo. Knights are a pain to gear up, require a lot of resources to farm with (even with earth deleter you are going to be spamming pots/fish to sustain your health). as such, gutter lines never impacted knights before anyway because we simply avoided them. GutterLines This no longer works now that iRo is using EAC (future TBD) Gutter line viewer for Ragnarok iRo. But they are balanced around that. ", http://cp.titanro.net/?module=ranking&action=character&jobclass=7. It's way too strong as it is normally. You currently have javascript disabled. all it did was mean we had to move a few cells sometimes with our mob or fly wing when we got hit locked on a gutter line. Bowling Bash is what makes a Knight. with a 200% damage reduction being the difference between a two shot and a three shot on a mob. Off topic: LMAO, at first I read the title as "Bowling: Gutter lines", so I expected this to be about the gutters at the side during bowling =p. again, you are using a shit ton of resources to farm with a knight. You flee while mobbing, that's why it's nice. Skill Bowling Bash Still bugged By Zantetsuken, September 12, 2020. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. I've been playing knight WITH an earth deleter and it feels incredibly weak and underwhelming. Did you find this helpful? Detailed Information on Sphinx Ragnarok Online, include map images, monsters on each map, monster amount on each map, links to each monster's details. lots of arguments being made, you guys just ignoring them. You can go agi knight, but then you can't mob and use bowling bash really anyway because you'll get melted. even WITH earth deleter you will still be using more pots than any other class. How desperate are you to have a 20% damage buff on your poorly built knight? Guildmaster changing has a cooldown of 24hrs. So if you are going a vit knight you rely on bowling bash to do what your class is designed to do. It's way cheaper to just go from 1 mob to another to kill them, which you can also do on a Knight if you build for it. I use Aspersio when I'm hunting stuff like Raydrics without bringing my priest with me. 7 members have voted. Their name is often abbreviated and then referred to as just "RK". So, today i have a question, is there an official way to avoid Gutter Lines? That's not considering all the other aspects of the kits of the classes either. League bowling has long been one of America's favorite leisure sports. Bowling Bash / Gutter Lines images. I'm not alone in this sentiment. As a player, who has been maining knights for quite a while now, I have to agree with Charlie here. This has nothing to do with class identity, it's a numbers tweak. the kit is built around mobbing. Momiji. Also quite expensive to level it’s supply … You came into this thread only to get personal, and to derail the actual discussion about the problem. why would I play knight, burn a shit ton of pots/sp items (assuming im a normal person without Earth Deleter) to have similar dps to other classes (cuz its nerfed right now) when I can just play other classes and not have to spend the pots/sp items. Well we aren't. Bowling Bash Nerf Unnecessary and Needs Revert. and that's with your efficiency. edit: eathena link points out that 2-hits 1 cell knockback BB is a bug, and was never intended to work that way. The server im playing is classic, no trans, just 2nd job and umbala episode is the new update. Strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflict physical damageindividually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards. at which point a knight player deserves to be able to do that. the fact is this, despite what any non knight player will tell you, any good knight used simple ro hook and knew where the gutter lines were. all the ways i found out to avoid it, its not official. and you can't spam and be super effiicient without full high end gear basically. they are not comparable to a knight which specifically only mobs. Bowling Bash is pretty much what makes a knight, what it is. and even then you still need pots. Agi Knight isn't even bad, it's similar to spear sader except you have an AoE skill too instead of a pure single target. There is an inn for those reasons, heal and get sp, warp back farm some more. Similarly, if we would nerf Double Attack from 50% to 40% chance (we're not),  would that make remove Rogues/Assassins ability to click stuff down? Ankle snare by itself is a hideously broken ability. it's not that knights completely lost their identity with the nerf, its that you are nerfing them on a basis that has poor logic. Bowling Bash strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflictphysical damage individually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards.1 1 Notes 2 About Gutter Lines 3 Applications 4 Known Bugs The Cast Time cannot be interrupted. Sep 22, 2019 - Explore Pat Sphar's board "Misc." Of course its good. Rune Knights are the final evolution of the Knight classes. Keep the nerf, Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. generalist its the best dps ability in the game pre trans, but whats wrong with that? Its been hard, 80% of the time that i die is becaues of it, if anyone has a solution. I go hybrid vit/agi like you should. Im planning to make a bow type rouge bowling bash type, but i dont know the right build and where to farm. the argument you've made against knights is that they mob and have better aoe/sp efficiency than any other class. Literally every class that mobs and wants to kill >3 enemies at once alone has to use potions or some other form of sustain. First time trying BB x_x. I made this little chart as a comparison between melee attack aoe skills: As you can see unnerfed BB is by far the best AoE skill, Grimtooth is more sp efficient but is mechanically quite flawed with mobs running away and having to use hide. Knights are built to mob and nothing else. When you're on gutterline, you cannot splash damage with BB (you only hit 1 mobs from your mobpack), thats the ONLY thing we regret, we are not talkin AT ALL about the 2 hits. Arguments against the nerf are BS. and some other page I found pointed out that Herc "fixed" that bug. If they become "OP" then we can look into them again, but right now I feel like they are pretty weak and the nerf was too pre-emptive. Charlie Loves U, June 12, 2018 in Processed. Edited by Prodigy, 07 July 2017 - 04:57 PM. One of the most annoying things of playing a Bowling Bash Knight are these pesky areas where the skill is bugged and doesn’t work properly. 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